# Brawls and picking order **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Pit\ **Created:** [December 28, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443 "2018-12-28T12:02:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kraterios](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/kraterios/32/3578_2.png) [@Kraterios](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Kraterios)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/1 "2018-12-28T12:02:14Z")
Normally I don’t like brawls, reason is that we don’t get PvP gems and get closer the PvP crate unlock. But I like this 2, 3 picking order. All brawls should be like this, it’s fast, and you can really surprise you opponent because you don’t give away to much info with the first pick. Other brawls take to long and give the opponent to much time to addept to your team ---
**Author:** ![ULFPAM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/ulfpam/32/6700_2.png) [@ULFPAM](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/ULFPAM)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/2 "2018-12-28T12:20:18Z")
Yes, this is the best brawl format. ---
**Author:** ![Papa\_Marsh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/papa_marsh/32/3886_2.png) [@Papa\_Marsh](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Papa_Marsh)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/4 "2018-12-28T17:50:01Z")
Sounds like an issue with you, not the game. I had a great time playing enough to lock in top-250. It didn’t take much effort and the rewards are awesome for the small amount of time it took. > [@jlm9912](#): > > and the Devs can shove this event up there asses I’ve seen toddlers with better control over there emotions than this. ---
**Author:** ![jlm9912](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/jlm9912/32/15552_2.png) [@jlm9912](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/jlm9912)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/5 "2018-12-28T17:56:05Z")
I didn’t say it was an issue with the game by the way. I was just venting how stupid this PVP brawl is. I don’t like the PVP in this game anyway and I am not that great at it obviously. You think these are great PVP rewards really? Good for you for locking in at the top 250. ---
**Author:** ![Papa\_Marsh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/papa_marsh/32/3886_2.png) [@Papa\_Marsh](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Papa_Marsh)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/6 "2018-12-28T18:01:43Z")
> [@jlm9912](#): > > You think these are great PVP rewards really? 4500 gems, 550 skin tokens, and 75 stamina for like… an hour or so of playing? Sure do. ---
**Author:** ![WalleWu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/wallewu/32/1755_2.png) [@WalleWu](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/WalleWu)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/7 "2018-12-28T18:08:27Z")
3k Gems, 400 Skin Tokens and 45 energy for less than 15 minutes. I do not like the event either, but the rewards are worth the little effort. ---
**Author:** ![Macdaddyclub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/macdaddyclub/32/7720_2.png) [@Macdaddyclub](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Macdaddyclub)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/8 "2018-12-28T18:50:34Z")
Wish I could spend that little of time. I consistently met with Heimlock teams where Heimlock was able to 2-3 hit kill each individual hero on my teams. I’m pretty sure that Heimlock isn’t suppose to be a DPS hero, let alone the premier DPS hero. Needless to say lost far more than I won. Maybe one day my Heimlock can dish out that kind of damage too. Would love to see equality between same heroes, ie 10\* level 80 platinum Heimlock is equal in every way to a 10\* level 80 platinum Heimlock. Still think the rewards are good for this, eventhough the draft is absolutely the most painful PvP. The 2/3 draft was much better than the others. ---
**Author:** ![Papa\_Marsh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/papa_marsh/32/3886_2.png) [@Papa\_Marsh](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Papa_Marsh)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/9 "2018-12-28T19:00:14Z")
> [@Macdaddyclub](#): > > Would love to see equality between same heroes, ie 10\* level 80 platinum Heimlock is equal in every way to a 10\* level 80 platinum Heimlock I’m not sure I get what you’re saying here… This draft event makes every single hero 8\* platinum; there is zero variation between any given hero on two different players’ teams. Heimlock is definitely not a dps hero and if he’s killing your squad that fast, then you really should be considering using a different setup. I can’t imagine any team that would have that much trouble with him. May I ask what 5 heroes you were using? ---
**Author:** ![Macdaddyclub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/macdaddyclub/32/7720_2.png) [@Macdaddyclub](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Macdaddyclub)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/10 "2018-12-28T19:14:38Z")
The hero detail was to serve as an example. Sure, Savage, Halo, Drake, Flatline, and Heimlock. My Heimlock wasn’t even able to harm Kunoichi in the least, yet when I had used heroes like Panzer, Dogface, and Savage, who are far more resilient, the opposing Heimlock would 2 hit kill Dogface and 3 hit kill Panzer and Savage from full health with no assistance. Yes, I know there was no assistance, because my team defeated all but Heimlock and then get wiped out. Oftentimes, Heimlock would throw down streams of fire similar to Steele. ---
**Author:** ![IceKobold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/icekobold/32/6552_2.png) [@IceKobold](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/IceKobold)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/11 "2018-12-29T01:59:00Z")
Since plat draft opened I’ve started trying teams I can’t do in normal pvp because their power levels are too different, like five silencers or cinder+keel+three different cover breaker tanks. It’s fun even when I lose (which I usually don’t), and like @WalleWu I put in 15 minutes or less on the whole event. ![5x_Silencer_draft_2018-12-27-16-41-42](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/gunrise/original/2X/3/39923953d6c43af60c4b4c7db1ce6572722f2da2.png) ---
**Author:** ![Kraterios](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/kraterios/32/3578_2.png) [@Kraterios](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Kraterios)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/12 "2018-12-29T12:22:47Z")
It’s not possible for heimlock to kill panzer in 3 shots, same with dogface ---
**Author:** ![Kraterios](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/kraterios/32/3578_2.png) [@Kraterios](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Kraterios)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/13 "2018-12-29T13:36:19Z")
Also thanks for the random hate you guys spit out about PvP that’s totally unrelated to the topic I made about the draft format. If you suck at the game and want to whine do it somewhere else and keep your filth out of my topic. @jlm9912 Have a good one ---
**Author:** ![Kraterios](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/kraterios/32/3578_2.png) [@Kraterios](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Kraterios)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/14 "2019-01-11T01:56:18Z")
I wanted to put some life in to this again to feel how others think. But feels like the worst draft format we ever had. Not enough time to scroll the list to find 4 hero’s, and then at the end you just add something. I don’t like it ---
**Author:** ![raginfiar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/raginfiar/32/6037_2.png) [@raginfiar](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/raginfiar)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/15 "2019-01-11T13:19:25Z")
I agree… 4-1 is really weird to me. Plus, while i understand the reason to “level the playing” field and put all heroes to same stars/promotion/skills, they should be promoted to plat instead of gold in my opinion. Some heroes really need their gold skill to shine or for team synergy to be a factor. And it would also allow for newer player to experience the play style of each hero. Giving them a heads of which heroes they want to spend stam/ressource/bucks in order to promote/evolve. As it is, I usually get killed on my 1st brawl as I notice too late that heroes are stuck at gold. **Side note…** If HH sticks with normalizing all heroes to gold promotion, i would really prefer to receive gem/win crates per win **AND** have limited lives while the brawl lasts. (can’t have both of those at the same time) My own experience, as well as most of my alliance. Many would just brawl to get in the rankings then switch to free play ---
**Author:** ![LordNikon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/lordnikon/32/17018_2.png) [@LordNikon](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/LordNikon)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/16 "2019-01-11T19:46:01Z")
Thanks for the feedback on the Draft Brawls. We will definitely consider all the feedback when scheduling future Draft Brawls! ---
**Author:** ![jlm9912](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/jlm9912/32/15552_2.png) [@jlm9912](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/jlm9912)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/17 "2019-01-11T19:47:21Z")
I do agree the timer needs to be extended to choose that many heroes at once not by a lot but it was a little rushed. ---
**Author:** ![Deathleech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@Deathleech](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Deathleech)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:38am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/brawls-and-picking-order/10443/18 "2019-01-12T06:38:31Z")
> [@Papa\_Marsh](#): > > I’m not sure I get what you’re saying here… This draft event makes every single hero 8\* platinum; there is zero variation between any given hero on two different players’ teams. Just want to point out this isn’t totally true. Skins come into play and if you don’t have the skin, you can’t use it in the PVP draft. Not that it’s a huge deal outside of legendary skins, but there is SOME variation with stats. > [@raginfiar](#): > > My own experience, as well as most of my alliance. Many would just brawl to get in the rankings then switch to free play Yup, that’s what I do. I usually clean sweep the first 3-5 matches (depending on what it takes to qualify), rank somewhere in the 50-100 range, then don’t bother doing the draft again. 10 minutes of work for thousands of gems and hundreds of sta and skin tokens is nice.