# Meta changing teams **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209 "2018-09-11T22:54:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hugekrakwn176852](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@Hugekrakwn176852](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Hugekrakwn176852)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/1 "2018-09-11T22:54:43Z")
Right now as we know it the meta is dog bolox so we should find new teams that can change the meta here is my team that razielo came up with okay so your gonna need atleast gold Francoise vanguard butter Caine and DPS of your choice preferably odachi or maven try this team out and see how it goes for you Submit your ideas for meta changing teams in this game after doing some all plat testing this team slays or can outank most DpS like panzers and dog faces what do you think of it I call it the van Fran combo ---
**Author:** ![Gohjiragaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/gohjiragaming/32/6957_2.png) [@Gohjiragaming](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Gohjiragaming)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:10am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/2 "2018-09-12T09:10:51Z")
I like the idea, so here is a team that I sometimes use : - Butter - Hideo (very good interrupt and dps) - Matador - Odachi - Nightingale Not OP or bad, just average šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Green\_Goblin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/the_green_goblin/32/10818_2.png) [@The\_Green\_Goblin](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/The_Green_Goblin)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/3 "2018-09-12T12:07:17Z")
I like to run a few teams that have synergy. Usually run these in gauntlet but have tried them in pvp. I was able to win a few but one or two always died. So couldnā€™t run the teams for an extended amount of time lol. Team 1 ā€œHard to killā€ Matador Salvatore Butter Cast Keel Team 2 ā€œno where to runā€ Maven Ghoul Chesterfield Oro Oracle Neither these teams are going to win you a ton of battles but they are fun. ---
**Author:** ![Cabbagesavager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@Cabbagesavager](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Cabbagesavager)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/4 "2018-09-12T15:12:49Z")
Post-healing nerf it is possible to punch through heal/revive teams. Doing very well with an adjusted team in the new meta. Dogface Panzer Nightingale Heimlock Mandrake Current winrate in Wesson patch is ~85%, around 100 matches in at 40k power level. Pros: Does not care about revive teams. This team will kill your Flatline twice, with or without Phalanx/Heim DPS able to easily overwhelm healing, killing key targets before clutch heals Balanced composition Cons: Min-maxers, especially Panzer min-maxers. Two thirds of my losses come from Panzer min-maxers. DPS heavy teams (3 or more) can get a kill on your team since you have no revives, impossible to lose against though ---
**Author:** ![Gruff\_McTuff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/gruff_mctuff/32/1160_2.png) [@Gruff\_McTuff](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Gruff_McTuff)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/5 "2018-09-12T16:56:48Z")
![Screenshot_20180902-113609](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/gunrise/original/2X/1/1b3ad6adc2bf9b17f4d36c477f62e8b9bf252f40.jpeg) I actually had a lot of success running with chester team. If you get a good combo you can pretty much kill anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Rygel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/rygel/32/263_2.png) [@Rygel](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Rygel)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/6 "2018-09-12T18:13:11Z")
In the Wesson/Butter Brawl I am currently using: - Baron - Panzer (Iā€™ve replaced her with Oracle sometimes but that has a sligthly lower win %) - Wesson - Nightingale - Caine to decent effect a surprisingly strong team Iā€™ve run in the past month is also (this is a Plat exclusive team): - Mauler - Halo - Ifrit (for his showtime, not his revive) - Caine - Moss the amount of incidental damage this team does from Maulerā€™s Plat combined with Haloā€™s Gold is surprisingly high. ---
**Author:** ![Terracrank](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/terracrank/32/4536_2.png) [@Terracrank](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Terracrank)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/7 "2018-09-12T19:22:51Z")
Iā€™m using this team in PvP for a while now (all at platinum base). ā˜… Elite Rifleman/Hideo (DPS of your choice) ā˜… Halo ā˜… Operator ā˜… Nightingale/Heimlock (Healer of your choice) ā˜… Phalanx The team is based on getting high health bonuses from Phalanxā€™s, Heimlocks and Operatorā€™s buffs, up to 70-90k extra additional health (160-200k for 30 seconds when using Heimlock). Elite Rifleman and Hideo will both trigger Halos lightning rod very fast (Bronze for Hideo and the Silver for Elite Rifleman) making up for decent spread damage. Operator will be your fast single healer, so that is why i would only recommend using it when you have Nightingales legendary skin, so you have a fast aoe heal available (Heimlock for slower but stronger aoe heal) Let me know your thoughts/better options, itā€™s greatly appreciated šŸ˜‰. ---
**Author:** ![ChemicalProphet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/chemicalprophet/32/5735_2.png) [@ChemicalProphet](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/ChemicalProphet)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/8 "2018-09-12T19:23:49Z")
Try mine Ghoul Moss Nightingale Mandrake Butters All gold, especially Drake (insert rap joke) ---
**Author:** ![Hugekrakwn176852](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@Hugekrakwn176852](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Hugekrakwn176852)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/9 "2018-09-12T20:18:43Z")
Itā€™s fascinating to hear all your team comps thanks for posting them Iā€™ll sure as hell try them ---
**Author:** ![Hugekrakwn176852](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@Hugekrakwn176852](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Hugekrakwn176852)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/10 "2018-09-12T20:20:12Z")
I did not ask for a current meta team I was asking for a team that can be used in the current meta that is not conventional in the current meta ---
**Author:** ![Hugekrakwn176852](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@Hugekrakwn176852](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Hugekrakwn176852)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/11 "2018-09-12T20:22:26Z")
Like the idea pity I donā€™t have some of the heroā€™s required phanlanx and operator and yes the high health bonuses are a good idea can really blunt out those pesky burst DPS heroā€™s ---
**Author:** ![Hugekrakwn176852](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@Hugekrakwn176852](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Hugekrakwn176852)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/12 "2018-09-12T20:23:08Z")
Mauler is beast I use him in most of my PvP comps ---
**Author:** ![Hugekrakwn176852](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@Hugekrakwn176852](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Hugekrakwn176852)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/13 "2018-09-12T20:23:55Z")
Lol thatā€™s what I want in PvP now some fun Iā€™ll try them out ---
**Author:** ![Rygel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/rygel/32/263_2.png) [@Rygel](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Rygel)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/14 "2018-09-12T21:30:22Z")
yea I agreeā€¦ he definitely doesnā€™t have top tier damage output, but the CC/disruption he brings more than makes up for the small dip in damage. (and if you combine it with Halo Plat + Ifrit Showtimeā€¦ man thatā€™s crazy) ---
**Author:** ![Draco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Draco](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Draco)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/15 "2018-09-13T02:52:41Z")
Niceā€¦ this is what Iā€™m currently using too šŸ™‚ Working well here also ---
**Author:** ![WalleWu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/wallewu/32/1755_2.png) [@WalleWu](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/WalleWu)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/16 "2018-09-13T08:17:07Z")
I currently run two teams. One I would call semi meta, because itā€™s using some elements of the meta teams: - Dogface - Nightingale - Caine (Razorback/Matador do well too, if you want to get further away from meta) - Heimlock - Mandrake The other one does well, as long as Panzer isnā€™t focusing on one of the heroes because it is lacking quick heal or stun for an early save. I call it the nowhere to hide. - Ghoul - Wesson - Butter - Keel - Callidus It is fun to watch your opponent try to get away from Molotovcocktail and end up in his bomb or Wessonā€™s airstrike. Keel rooting two or three opponents is helping to keep them inside the areas of the skills. Once molotovcocktail starts to spread you can set 5 or 6 positions on fire, leaving no place to hide. And no heal either because Callidus is blocking it. If they fix Callidus gold it should provide some quick heal, helping to get through the first 15 seconds without losing a hero. ---
**Author:** ![ULFPAM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/ulfpam/32/6700_2.png) [@ULFPAM](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/ULFPAM)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/17 "2018-09-13T17:19:28Z")
> [@Rygel](#): > > - Mauler > - Halo > - Ifrit (for his showtime, not his revive) > - Caine > - Moss In theory I love this team but out of 30 matches I havenā€™t been able to keep everyone alive long enough for their synergies to work woners even once. Ifrit dies, Halo dies, Mauler dies, Caine and Moss trying to keep each other alive but fails. ---
**Author:** ![Gohjiragaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/gohjiragaming/32/6957_2.png) [@Gohjiragaming](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Gohjiragaming)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 7:46am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/18 "2018-09-14T07:46:18Z")
Same here but my mauler is gold only šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Deathleech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@Deathleech](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Deathleech)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/19 "2018-09-19T09:04:43Z")
I havenā€™t used these teams because my heroes arenā€™t high enough level yet, but a few I have been thinking about trying are: Mauler Odachi Mandrake Ifrit Night/Caine Caine being a nice choice for his shields and skill to increase crit chance, which in turn helps Mauler stun. Nightingale is probably better since the team lacks heals, but she also can contribute to the stunning herself. Either way itā€™s some decent stun potential with Drakeā€™s Tomahawk, Odachiā€™s Caltrops, and Maulerā€™s stuns. No matter what there is a bunch of bio on this team meaning they would make quick work of Panzer/Dogface/Caine/Keel, and do decent damage to enemy Ifrit/Heimlocks. Another team I have been thinking about is: Keel Maven Ghoul Chesterfield/Surge/Cinder Nightingale/Heimlock/Ifrit This team would be able to lock opponentā€™s down fairly easily, allowing Ghoul and Mavenā€™s AoE to tick away and do massive damage. You could either go heavier on the roots with Chester and Surge, or do more damage with Cinder. Nightingale would be great for additional healing and stuns, while Heimlock would make the team more hardy, and Ifrit could slow making enemies sit in the AOE even longer, depending which route you wanted to take. Since itā€™s more bio it again would be great vs Dogface/Panzer/Caine teams. ---
**Author:** ![Hugekrakwn176852](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@Hugekrakwn176852](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Hugekrakwn176852)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/meta-changing-teams/7209/20 "2018-09-19T20:09:44Z")
I love how you put surge in that combo creative use of him