# The Meta is the same since half a year ago **URL:** \ **Category:** General Hero Hunters Discussion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/the-meta-is-the-same-since-half-a-year-ago/10889 "2019-01-23T07:11:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4
**Author:** ![Sing](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/sing/32/5183_2.png) [@Sing](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Sing)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/the-meta-is-the-same-since-half-a-year-ago/10889/4 "2019-01-23T10:44:15Z")
> [@The Meta is the same since half a year ago](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/the-meta-is-the-same-since-half-a-year-ago/10889): > > Don’t matter what or if a new hero comes (actually, since half a year ago, always the new heroes come broken so, they get added to this “broken” meta) but it’s gettin boring PVP. Chose from this list and you will have all the heroes in the current meta: Dogface with skin Panzer Nightingale with epic skin Mandrake Flatline Ifrit Caine Kasihi Kobold and of course the new broken hero Jarek We’ve got about 70 heroes and you see always the same combinations on PVP. And the last months it… Disagree on so many counts! Half a year ago was July 2018. (1) Panzer was released then, and weren’t there all these people complaining how Nightingale and Flatline were wiped from the meta because of Panzer? Wasn’t the meta then Panzer Mandrake Heimlock Caine and another healer? (2) Is Panzer the meta now? I must have missed something. (3) Is Dogface the meta now? Was it meta in July 2018? I must hav missed something again. (4) How could Ifrit, Kaishi, Kobold and Jarek been part of the meta in July 2018 when they were not even released yet? Even now, are Kaishi, Kobold and Jarek meta? (5) Some glaring missing names from your meta listing… Ulfpam mentioned some I will leave it to the rest to get you up to speed. > [@Th3r45mu4](#): > > And the last months it’s been pretty hard 'cause as all the Free2Play (or Pay2win in this case) if u don’t have the “new update hero” you’re out. You’ve got no chances versus anyone who has the new hero, even when this one has been in the game only for 1 day. In reply please see this thread, where the poster’s feedback is that people who are NOT playing with event heroes have an advantage! > [@PVP faction tournament- Not using event heroes](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/pvp-faction-tournament-not-using-event-heroes/10876): > > Hello fellow Hero Hunters, Just had a suggestion for PVP tournaments when spotlighting new heros and their respected factions. I know not all of us can’t get the new hero right off the bat but I liked to propose a lock-in feature for at least 1 faction event hero to join PVP faction tourney. It’s kinda of frustrating building that specific faction only to get mowed down by meta based (non faction heroes) I’m probably going to get alot of grievance from my suggestion but want to hear your inp… I feel like I have been playing a totally different game from you. Could you be more specific about why your experience is that 1- the meta is the same from July 2018, and 2- why you think newly released Jarek is overpowered such that “ **you’ve got no chances versus anyone who has the new hero** ” because this is very different from my experience. --- _[View the full topic](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/the-meta-is-the-same-since-half-a-year-ago/10889)._