# Thoughts on KURTZ **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Pit\ **Created:** [May 5, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908 "2019-05-05T20:03:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ahora](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/ahora/32/4297_2.png) [@Ahora](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Ahora)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/1 "2019-05-05T20:03:31Z")
So I get the chance to test Kurtz on PvP today. I faced almost all the meta team’s, from Dogface، Kuno, Panzer to Ronin teams, sandbaggers and min/maxers, only team that I didn’t face was mauler cambo. I didn’t take screenshot of those matches because they were… Hmmm, what’s the word? So easy, yeah. Only match that I struggled it’s this one, I don’t know exactly why, maybe 6K more power? Idk ![24](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/gunrise/original/2X/4/4ae1e0ba86bb9e1dc99a00fae960d87cd490c1b2.jpeg) I have to point out that I didn’t use any of Kurtz skills beside his Bronze, keep this in mind, just his bronze and I beat every single team that I faced. The trick is to stun DPS hero and go after support team, cuz if you attack stunned hero; the effect will be lost. and my Kurtz skills are not levelled up, only his bronze which is at level 87. ![01](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/gunrise/original/2X/0/0208321b6691e02774eb0450d46f229c7d88acde.jpeg) I can’t say anything about his other skills because I haven’t test them yet. He doesn’t have very high damage output tho, so it will take a little time to defeat your opponent if you’re using him as DPS hero. It’s okay to say he is OP and a direct threat to all meta team’s in the game. And he is so rare, if you want to get him (atm) you must be super lucky to get him from Kurtz crate, like I get him. or drop some cash on gold and buy Kurtz crate multiple times. What’s your thoughts on him? ---
**Author:** ![All\_Saints](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/all_saints/32/9202_2.png) [@All\_Saints](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/All_Saints)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/2 "2019-05-05T20:12:26Z")
It was obvious in advance he has a long way to be balanced hero. The fact that he is initially 7\* hero exacerbates the situation and make a huge gap between Paying and none VIP players. If his skills are not going anywhere near nerfing, then the first target should be his health atleast. I think he should be squishy and fragile like kunoichi, otherwise he will conquer almost every PVP. ---
**Author:** ![RoZin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/rozin/32/6674_2.png) [@RoZin](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/RoZin)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/3 "2019-05-05T22:48:43Z")
Even with gold, I’ve spent close to 60k gold and still didn’t get him. To make him 7 Stars and op is ridiculous. There is a reason the best heroes are all 3 star heroes… Keeps game balanced. This was a huge mistake on the devs part. ---
**Author:** ![Nadeem](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/nadeem/32/7658_2.png) [@Nadeem](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Nadeem)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 5:52am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/4 "2019-05-06T05:52:57Z")
Yeah…I remember that (Wesson, flat, ifrit. …etc) were 3\* heroes, so why Kurtz is 7\*?? I think they’re better than him ---
**Author:** ![Matsoba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/matsoba/32/9787_2.png) [@Matsoba](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Matsoba)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/5 "2019-05-06T18:10:57Z")
All the 7\* heroes are mediocre. ---
**Author:** ![Nadeem](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/nadeem/32/7658_2.png) [@Nadeem](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Nadeem)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/6 "2019-05-06T18:18:26Z")
I don’t think that 7\* heroes are powerful, I have prophet on 8\* and he’s just normal ---
**Author:** ![Ahora](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/ahora/32/4297_2.png) [@Ahora](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Ahora)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/7 "2019-05-06T19:42:57Z")
> [@Matsoba](#): > > All the 7\* heroes are mediocre Kurtz is not. he is overpowered. ---
**Author:** ![Matsoba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/matsoba/32/9787_2.png) [@Matsoba](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Matsoba)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 4:45am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/9 "2019-05-07T04:45:30Z")
I don’t see how that’s needed. ---
**Author:** ![RoZin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/rozin/32/6674_2.png) [@RoZin](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/RoZin)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/10 "2019-05-07T20:58:26Z")
Kurtz is way overpowered worse then Panzer ever was… If u hated Ronin, get ready to quit the game with Kurtz. ---
**Author:** ![Matsoba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/matsoba/32/9787_2.png) [@Matsoba](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Matsoba)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/11 "2019-05-07T21:08:26Z")
So few people have him. It won’t be a big problem yet. If he’s OP they’ve have time to fix him before he gets in everyone’s roster. ---
**Author:** ![RoZin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/rozin/32/6674_2.png) [@RoZin](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/RoZin)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/12 "2019-05-07T21:08:59Z")
At 90k pvp range ud be surprised… Alot have him. ---
**Author:** ![RoZin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/rozin/32/6674_2.png) [@RoZin](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/RoZin)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/13 "2019-05-07T21:09:23Z")
1 in 5 matches against Kurtz team. ---
**Author:** ![Matsoba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/matsoba/32/9787_2.png) [@Matsoba](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Matsoba)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/14 "2019-05-07T21:11:21Z")
He’s in 2 of the current top 50 teams (Prophet + Briar PVP). Edit: OK a few more. 4? ---
**Author:** ![RoZin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/rozin/32/6674_2.png) [@RoZin](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/RoZin)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/15 "2019-05-07T21:13:58Z")
In my power bracket I know at least a dozen players I face regularly that have him. And that’s only in 4 alliances. ---
**Author:** ![RoZin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/rozin/32/6674_2.png) [@RoZin](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/RoZin)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/16 "2019-05-07T21:14:45Z")
The tourney started two hours ago… And that list is going to show the team that got them most points in a win not the team they used the most. ---
**Author:** ![Matsoba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/matsoba/32/9787_2.png) [@Matsoba](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Matsoba)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/17 "2019-05-07T21:19:32Z")
We’re about same power I reckon. I haven’t met any kurtZ at all yet . I don’t mistrust your experience but i must only talk from my experience. True that this tournament isnt kurtz main arena ---
**Author:** ![Ahora](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/ahora/32/4297_2.png) [@Ahora](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Ahora)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/19 "2019-05-08T00:05:21Z")
Oh my goodness, idk why they deleted my reply, it’s not my fault that you released a broken hero. LMAO I’m afraid they would delete this reply as well if I put the same content on it. I wil make it so simple: **You are not going to lose any matches when you have Kurtz** (_at the moment_ with the bug’s that he have and if you take advantage of those bug’s) ---
**Author:** ![KolganKnG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/kolgankng/32/22960_2.png) [@KolganKnG](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/KolganKnG)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/20 "2019-05-08T00:16:48Z")
This is a very cruel character, it is hard to win. I am sure that it needs to be fixed. I play 200+ fights a day, but now I’ve lost all desire to play, because I don’t have a Kurd … ---
**Author:** ![KolganKnG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/kolgankng/32/22960_2.png) [@KolganKnG](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/KolganKnG)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/21 "2019-05-08T00:20:52Z")
A good player with Kurtz can be defeated 5:0 only by chance. 🤢 ---
**Author:** ![Ahora](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/hhforum.superchargemobile.app/ahora/32/4297_2.png) [@Ahora](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/u/Ahora)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908/22 "2019-05-08T00:32:03Z")
a good player with Kurtz who know his bug’s and take advantage of it, you can’t defeat him/her until they fix the bug. Kurtz is far away from being a balanced hero. [Next page](https://hhforum.superchargemobile.app/t/thoughts-on-kurtz/12908.md?page=2)