Well, 27 days and ronin nerf happens since my last comment. Unfortunately the wrong thing nerved for fair top player teamsetups
: Every second match, same damager…ronin…why? To good compared with different damagers. Not talking about his attack buff. It’s his hp buff for the other heroes…
Luckily i know how to beat him…result: just playing this two teams or ronin team myself…playing different teams, no fun at all! There might be so many great combinations…but then, second match…ronin enemy…
Makes me sad
And i am NOT Talking about sandbagging or minmaxing…what is for me no problem. Because everyone can decide by his own what hero to push and what skills to push to have clever teamsetups.
I am talking about this one hero who is overpowering other heroes with his passiv skill. No fun at all.
And: it’s not the matchmaking, somehow you need to matchmake enemies. And clever players use the matchmaking by pushing hero’s,different to get best possible team.
What I am talking about: two,players who usually end up at least within top 1.000 rank. Fair matchmaking, fair circumstances. Except that: this one hero makes the other heroes so strong that you cannot win, except you have kuno, panzer teamsetups…that’s ridiculous bad for the fun in this game.
Why playing a team without ronin? or without the mechs to win against him?
And please, it’s not helpful posting screenshots where you win against a really bad ronin team setup…because that’s not the prob.
And yes, all the ronin players will hate that text above, including some players of our ally…but that’s already fact enough to change it.
dear developers! I know this topic has been raised more than once, but I want to raise it again. The problem with pvp. First, often teams pick up stronger than mine. But it is not so important. The bottom line is that in addition to Ronin, Flat, Mandrake, Butter, Caine, it is almost impossible to play in pvp. Or rather - win. And this is a real problem. A couple of months ago I played pvp and could enter the top 200 on autoplay. Now it does not work. Because many people play by hand. and the damage from the hand of Ronin is colossal. Unlike autoplay. Example, recently played in pvp I have a 9 star Ronin and I came across an opponent with a 10 star Ronin. He took out my ronin in a few seconds. While I could not even Flat kill. Moreover, my Ronin’s health is 750,000, and Flat has 290000-300000. Please do something so that other players can play pvp too. Because to constantly lose - no one wants. it is necessary that other players have a chance to win. or make sure that the damage from the arm and the autoplay is the same. Or cut Ronin’s health. Or make a worthy competition. And yet, very often it happens that a lot of players play unfairly. Suppose I play Panzer, Astra, Phalanx, and a couple of heroes in platinum and 6 stars each. Team Power 40000. Ronin 7-8 star comes across to me as rivals, with golden heroes in the team. That is also a 40,000 team strength. But! This Ronin takes down my team in seconds. When I even really can not hurt him. This is to discredit other players and heroes in the game. Because Ronin has the health of a tank, and a lot of damage from the hand. Most of the other heroes either have powerful damage (but not more powerful than Ronin), but half the health, and do not live up to the activation of skills. Either almost as much health, but not enough damage to kill Ronin.
But not only me playing like that. Maybe you need to get out??? Because we met in pvp and some of yours I defeated with autoplay. You saying that, because if autoplay and hands play would be the same, you can’t be on the top? Are you afraid this? Is this not cheating? Ha?
and who are you to get me out of here? I am the same player. And I have an opinion. And if you do not like it, it is only because if devs can hear me and equalize manual control and autoplay, many of you will earn less pvp stones, which of course is not profitable for you. And if you are such cool players, then maybe you have nothing to fear? and if you are afraid, maybe you only earn stones at the expense of weak players? and if the forces are equal, then you are afraid that you will not master?
No one should be winning PvP 100% consistently. If you could win in the past IN AUTOPLAY thats because you had an OP team. If its suddenly stopped working it sounds like the nerfs are working.
You should win/lose part of the time, that sounds like its working fine to me.
Only thing this is mean what Ronin is serious broken. If everybody think what he is ok – bring back Panzer to release status.This will be fair and ABSOLUTELY equal actions.
I want to explain why you need to equalize the damage from the hand and the autoplay, or to cut down the damage to Ronin exactly when they are manually played. When Ronin is on avtoplay - he has standard damage. But when under manual control - its damage increases by 10-15 times (just imagine that!). No other hero in the game has such damage. Now let’s put it all together, health is like that of a tank, a shield reflecting damage, plus 4th skills giving him additional health - and it turns out into a cruel killing machine, almost invincible. That is why Ronin can equal Ronin to endure in 5 seconds. And about other heroes who have less damage and less health - I generally keep quiet. But the worst thing is that players who know these features -using this. And so the other players have almost no chance of winning. How many players are playing by hand? Judging by the top rating from 200 to 500 … The rest are either not played by Ronin or by autoplay. And how many players are there at all? I think more than 35,000. Now imagine a situation, what will happen if these 35,000 get tired of playing under such conditions and they all delete the game at once? Let not all, but most. What will happen then? These 500 will play among themselves. This topic has been raised many times in game chat rooms. I am the commander of the alliance. We have 23 people in the alliance. And only 2-3 of them play pvp. The others do not play. Because they are not interested in even entering PvP, since they come across an opponent who plays manually and immediately takes out the entire team in 20 seconds. Many of the players pick up the topic to throw this game. Even I am not interested in playing. Although, I also play with Ronin, even if I’m on the autoplay fight, but I can win at least 8 fights out of 10 But I want to be able to play with other heroes. And so that other players have a chance to win though. Even if you equalize the damage from the hand and the autoplay - in fact, those who play from the hand will still have an advantage. Because on avtoplay about 30% of bullets get to the shelter. So top players can still stay top if they can play. And healthy competition doesn’t hurt anyone
Lol that makes absolutely no sense every hero that is manually controlled does more damage because when you control it you shoot quicker and don’t duck for cover or shoot at cover
Yeah, other heroes has more damage. But not like that. About punishment… why are you punishing other players without reason, just because you want more pvp-stones? And to have a chance, doesn’t mean that they can win. Someone can, but someone - not… But at least they can have a chance to play a little
And if they got a chance - it doesn’t mean, that everyone will start winning in pvp at once. In fact, to win in pvp you need more than just a chance. Tactics, reaction, knowledge of heroes and their skills … and what is important - experience. Not everyone has it. Therefore, at least a chance to win can be given.
I think Ronin is lot less overpowering now. Instead of nerfing him out of oblivion just give him a competition, and that competition also a competition.
I think players should now focus on balancing rooster than just using no skill to use Ronin and min maxing. I accept I used Ronin teams but I can’t really expend getting rank rewards after my dogface/halo teams got squished by ronin teams. But I am happy Ronin is weaker now.
Make it a food web with Godlante, the barista bezerk robot as apex predator.
First of all, nobody is asking for this. It’s not unreasonable to want a balanced game, and your implication otherwise is ridiculous.
No. No. No. No. No. This is NOT how you balance. This is how you end up with a constant rock-paper-scissors garbage game where the match is decided before it’s even started. Too many games fall into this because it’s the easy, naive, inexperienced way to handle it.
The inevitable result is that you have some super strong mech hero that overpowers ronin and then another super strong bio hero to overpower that mech. Now, the winner of every match is decided by who has the advantage in the R-P-S triagle.
I know this is an old topic but I have a possible solution to keep him viable and not completely useless. What if his plat skill was added damage for him if the other heros are above his health, and added health to the lower health heros? That way he wouldnt gain insane amount of damage by min maxing and give everyone way more health. If they min max the other heros will have more health but ronins damage wont be able to wipe your team out in seconds.
